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- > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:27 +0200
- > From: "Phillip M. Hallam-Baker" <HALLAM@zws012.desy.de>
- >
- > Hello,
-
- > I would like to put the ZEUS online documentation online via WWW.I have
- > already got the various sources etc to compile on the DECstation and can run the
- > browser on both VAX and Ultrix OK.
-
- Great! You might like to link up with Thomas Finnen who has a unix server running
- at DESY.
-
- > What I really want to do is to set up the server on the VAX though. This
- > is where we do all the development etc, the DECstations belong to the offline
- > group and they won't let us get SU privs which are needed to put up daemons. Or
- > rather they might if they didn't suspect me of wanting to put up the TPU editor
- > so that EDT junkies like myself can use the things.
-
- Fine. Lots of people have set up the server under VMS. We haven't incorporated
- the changes needed into the distribution, but I'm sure a mail to www-talk would
- get replies of people who had done it. There is a DCL server example in
- the W3 deamon documentation. The basic W3 files all compile under VMS, and there
- is (in HTFile.c?) a routine to convert unix-style filenames to VMS style.
- (The browser actually does that automatically when it runs on VMS, to read local
- files).
-
- > Long term what I would like to do is to get the various RDB and Oracle
- > databases that the ZEUS online system is being reorganized arround up onto a W3
- > server. This would save me the hassle of writting and maintaining browsers etc.
-
- Good idea. If the code from the generic W3-Oracle gateway can be of use to
- you then feel free...see
- http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/Daemon/Oracle/Overview.html
-
- > This raises a number of questions, particularly in the area of security.
- > I would like to use an authentication scheme. What I had in mind was that the
- > client making a request requiring validation should recieve back a key which
- > would be encoded at the client end and returned to the server where it would be
- > decoded to see if it matched. The key would be changed on each pass. This would
- > require a list of active keys to be kept in order to allow serving of multiple
- > requests concurrently which would of course make the server non-idempotent.
-
- We have a prototype server running which operates in a similar way, but currently
- without encryption: the passwords are simply sent in the clear over the net with
- every document retrieval. This is not high security, but it is as high as we
- currently have with telnet sessions. This is being prototyped now.
-
- > The end product as far as ZEUS would be concerned would be just a single
- > database that could be interrogated via WWW protocols and a number of customized
- > form programs for interrogating it. However since we are using a G"odel
- > synthesizer to produce the servers the project will naturally generate what
- > amounts to a VHLL compiler for WWW compatible database servers.
-
- I don't know about G"odel synthesisers nor VHLL though they both ring a bell...
- Obviously it would be a good move to have a rapid customisation system for
- producing hypertext views of relational databases. This could be perhaps a report
- generator perhaps just producing HTML if it ran fast enough for real-time server
- use. (A point-and click graphic view builder would be cool of course!)
-
- > Another idea I had was to integrate a HTML output window into my TROJAN
- > user interface synthesizer. This is a UIMS which spans Motif, Curses and SMG.
- > Other interfaces (particularly X-Windows related ones) can easily be added..
- > This would allow a fairly nice browser and possibly editor to be written, on the
- > VAX I would connect it to the LinkWorks package which is DECs own Hyper-product
- > which comes bundled in Motif. I suspect other vendors will shortly follow. What
- > I had in mind was a "WWW" output window which use a WWW hypertext link as the
- > linkable object thus allowing the DEC supplied "notepad" editor and cardfiler to
- > be used as a hypertext editor, I'm not clear on the design of this yet.
-
- We have wondered about Linkworks integration, putting a W3 engine on so that
- linkworks linsk could be makde to W3 objects, and maybe making a W3 retrieval
- client which would use a table to fire up appropriate DEC tools when given
- data in particular formats.
-
- > Phill M. Hallam-Baker
-
- Tim Berners-Lee
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